Holyshit...no belay even? damnnnnnnnnpaul wrote:Here's a ladder on a pitch (Eldon Hole, Derbyshire, UK) I bet you wouldn't prefer to free climb...
Sungura wrote:paul wrote:Here's a ladder on a pitch (Eldon Hole, Derbyshire, UK) I bet you wouldn't prefer to free climb...
Holyshit...no belay even? damnnnnnnnn
No I just wouldn't do that at all - where is the rope!??! That looks like a rope one. Zip! done!
Cody JW wrote:Amy, The last time I looked The NSS bookstore still had the 92 NSS convention guidebook for 10 bucks. Nice price for a nice guidebook especially if you live in an area where you may find yourself caving in Indiana. Unlike Wyandotte, I only have one. The one I got at the convention. The 07 NSS convention guidebook also in Indiana is nice, not sure what the bookstore wants for it.
LukeM wrote:Amy, you should read Vertical Bill. It's about Bill Cuddington and the development of SRT, and includes a few scary pre/early srt stories. Definitely a must read for any vertical caver.
Sungura wrote:They had a presentation at capers first half was early srt days....uhmmm dang. I think my favourite was PLUNGERS...yes PLUNGERS used as rigging points just suctioned to the rock. I mean...wat? LOL. All the stuff shown...I'm honestly surprised any of those people lived...
As I noted earlier in this link that as patron of the cave it is my responsibility to inform cavers of the wishes of The IKC Board. I am not saying it is not possible to free climb the drop, I have and I am a modest (at best) free climber. The IKC has two reasons to put in their management plan to ask people not to free climb. One is to limit impact of the formations in the cave and the second is that they feel it is safer to rappel and ascender climb or cable ladder with belay the drop, personally I suscribe to the rappel and frog climb. I have done the cable ladder thing a few times and I feel for me it is easier and safer to rappel and frog out. We do not want to risk the possible impact of a full scale rescue in the event of a fall. IKC took ownership of the cave to preserve the beauty of the cave and still allow access to responsible cavers. I know most cavers worth their salt can free climb it , the reality is the owners of the cave do not want that to happen.Lava wrote:Sorry to chime in late, but... I'm of the opinion that it's actually quite safe to free climb the the drop in Buddha. The key is to pass over the crack and drop down into the funnel on the far side of it, then do the crawl in the stream out to the edge of the waterfall. This bypasses the first moves down to the waterfall and reduces the climb to a single move where you step down from the waterfall. It's a reach, but no biggie if you've got somebody already down who can spot you.
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